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春秋战国古籍证实曾有“太阳从西边升起”的奇观

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 楼主| 发表于 2011-2-15 16:39:20 | 只看该作者
郑地—郑国—郑县—华县

2008-12-9

来源: 华县人民政府网 跟帖条

  华县位于西安以东90公里处,此地远在商朝时,就称“郑”。“郑”的本意,据东汉时的训诂书《释名》的解释,为“郑,町也。其地多平,町町然也。”《辞海》释“町町”为“平坦貌”。今华县一带正位于渭河之南的冲积平原上,地势平坦,坦荡无垠,这就是它在古代称为“郑”的原因。商朝灭亡后,西周王朝建立,今华县一带因距都城丰镐(在今西安西)不远,而属畿内之邑,仍称为“郑”,或称“南郑”。古代史书《竹书纪年》,记周穆王元年(公元前976年)“筑祗宫于南郑”,《辞源》指出,南郑“故城在今陕西华县北”。当代历史学家武伯纶说,“西周始终以丰镐为都,……中间穆王曾居郑(今华县),……但时间不长。”可见郑地于周穆王时曾一度为西周之都。
  西周时期,王朝直接统治地之外,大都裂土分封,建立了许多诸侯国。周宣王二十二年(公元前806年),宣王之弟友,被分封于郑地,今华县一带即成为地方诸侯郑国的所在,友即郑桓公。郑桓公建立郑国30多年后,正值周幽王时期,政治昏乱,天下动荡,郑桓公为避乱,而将财产和家属迁到东虢(在今河南荥阳)和郐(在今河南密县东南)之间。两年后,西北部族犬戎攻破西周,郑桓公与周幽王被杀,郑桓公之子郑武公即将郑国东迁到郑桓公准备好的避难之地。东迁后的郑国以后成为春秋时的强国,但于公元前375年为韩国所灭,其遗族散居到陈(今河南淮阳)、宋(今河南商丘),以国名为姓,成为郑氏。郑氏来源于郑国,郑国之命名源于郑地,因而今华县与天下郑氏有着极深的渊源。
  郑国东迁后,今华县一带的郑国的百姓有的南越秦岭,迁到汉中一带,以南郑命名,后演化南郑县。东迁以后的郑国故地,人称为古郑或旧郑,因在新郑国之西,又称为西郑。而东迁后的新郑国,则称为新郑或东郑。
  春秋初期,今华县一带的古郑,为秦国与晋国的接壤地区,秦晋二国反复争夺,后为秦国所牢固控制,并于秦武公十一年(公元前687年)在此地设郑县。成为中国历史上设县最早的县份之一。郑县建制延续了两千余年,并于南北朝时期,成为华州州治的所在地。元朝时,郑县建制被撤销,其地由华州直辖,史称“省县入州”。1913年,改华州为华县。
  以上就是郑地—郑国—郑县—华县的演变过程。因此,华县是郑氏的源头,是海内外众多郑氏的发源地当不为过。


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 楼主| 发表于 2011-2-18 12:45:20 | 只看该作者
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-2-18 12:48:06 | 只看该作者
古代历史上没有用“天再旦”来记叙日食的。


http://www.tech-domain.com/viewthread.php?tid=21087

日全食现象与人类科技
日全食, 人类, 科技, 现象
     太阳系的行星系结构中,月球,地球,太阳是独立的个体,同时又是结构中的一部分。月球是地球星体结构中组织成分,同时离地球主体结构又特别的遥远!就象人们放风筝,线的一端永远被地球拴着。
    浩瀚的宇宙,有形物质与隐形物质是构成空间两大部分,一切物质都在作有规律的运动。日全食是星体在运动中所出现的一种现象。简单地说:人类在太阳系的有限空间区域里,就是指地球的行星月球在空间里遮挡太阳的短暂时间。由于星体在空间不断运动,月球,地球,太阳的运动在不断的改变,同时又在不断的自我修正,这就是星体的运动状况。作为地球人类在地球上各个区域看见的日全食,其实就是月球,地球,太阳在空间轨道运动自我修正运动留下的轨迹。
    2009日全食在北半球的出现,其实就是地球在太阳的空间轨道上,地球南北晃动地球向南运动的开始,地球在万年南北晃动周期时间里,对于人类生命来说,是那么的漫长!
    2009日全食的出现,地球的星体结构会出现那些变化呢?作为我个人的看法,首先,地球最高的高原将会停止向空间延伸的脚步。南半球的海床将会缓缓的上升,具体升多少,还是一个未知数?南北半球的气候会变的更加复杂。
    2009日全食的出现,地球的表面,北半球北回归线到赤道的区域里,2010年地质活动特别的频繁,也许有灾难性的地质运动出现。
    日全食现象的出现,对人类的科技有那些影响呢?
    地球,月球,太阳直线的时间里,它们的空间距离是缩小还是放大了?太阳的光子,地球的磁场,月球的波动出现了那些变化?地球,月球,太阳直线的时间里,太阳所辐射的能量有那些被月球吸收?有那些能量穿过月球,向空间延伸?日冕形成与星体运动速度有联系吗?这对于人类研制空间飞行器,进入宇宙空间是有帮助呢?2009年7月21日,李登念写于广州


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 楼主| 发表于 2011-2-18 12:49:29 | 只看该作者
http://wiki.lets-study.com/index.php?doc-view-1579
太阳系的运动  

太阳和地球的空间运动  太阳系是银河星系的一部分。太阳系移动速度约为220千米/秒,2.26亿年绕银河系旋转一周。太阳系中的八大行星都在差不多同一平面的近圆轨道上运行,朝同一方向绕太阳公转。除金星以外,其他行星的自转方向和公转方向相同。彗星的绕日公转方向大都相同,多数为椭圆形轨道,一般公转周期比较长。另外,整个太阳系还在远离银河系,它们朝着武仙座的方向不停地飞行。

              太阳和地球的空间运动
    英国天文学家侯西勒曾在1783年测量太阳周围星球的固有运动,测算出太阳对着武仙座的某一点,以220千米/秒的速度运动,这和后来的天文学家详细测定的结果接近。由于地球还要绕日公转,所以它在空间的运动就变成图中所示的螺旋运动。

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 楼主| 发表于 2011-2-18 12:49:44 | 只看该作者
早在公元前5世纪时,希腊著名历史学家希罗多德(hροδο-τοζ,拉herodotus,)写成了其传世名作——《历史》一书,此书因其年代久远,而被西方认为是人类最早的历史著作之一,其历史记载在史学界权威性被世界所公认。



在希罗多德《历史》第一卷中,记载了一件奇异的天文现象,即:“白天突然变成了黑夜”。根据天文学家的推算,此奇异天象发生在公元前585年5月28日。

在希罗多德《历史》第七卷中,记载了:“太阳离开了它在天上的本位而消失了,虽然天空澄明没有云影,不过白天却变成了黑夜。”据后人推测,此事大概发生在公元前480年4月中旬。



第一卷——(74)

(74)后来,当库阿克撒列斯派人向阿律阿铁斯要求这些人,而阿律阿铁斯拒绝引渡他们的时候,吕底亚人和美地亚人之间就爆发了战争,这场战争继续了五年。在这期间,美地亚人多次战胜吕底亚人,而吕底亚人也多次战胜美地亚人。他们常常也相互进行夜战。然而,他们双方仍然分不出胜负来,不位在第六个年头的一衣会战中,战争正在进行时,发生了一件偶然的事件,即白天突然变成了黑夜。米利都人泰利士曾向伊奥尼亚人预言了这个事件,他向他们预言在哪一年会有这样的事伴发生,而实陈上这话应验了①。美地亚人和吕底亚人春到白天变成了黑夜,便停止了战争,而他们双方便都十分切望达成和平的协议了。





希罗多德《历史》第七卷——(37)

(37)当桥梁和阿托斯那里的工事已经准备好,而又接到在壕沟口的地方为了防止在海潮上升时淤塞壕沟口而修筑的防波堤以及壕沟本身全部完工的报告时,大军过了冬天之后,便在春天到来之际作了准备,从撒尔迪斯出发进军阿比多斯了。但当他们正要进发的时候,太阳离开了它在天上的本位而消失了,虽然天空澄明没有云影,不过白天却变成了黑夜。当克谢尔克谢斯看到和注意到这一点的时候,他为这一点很感不安,于是他询问玛哥斯僧,这个天象是什么意思。他们告他说,这是神向希腊人预示他们的城市的毁灭。他们说,因为太阳是希腊人的预言者,而月亮则是他们自己的预言者。克谢尔克谢斯听了这话之后心中万分欢喜,便继续走上他的征途。

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 楼主| 发表于 2011-2-18 12:50:10 | 只看该作者
夏商周断代工程

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夏商周断代工程是一个以自然科学与人文社会科学相结合的方法来研究中国历史上夏、商、周三个历史时期的年代学的科学研究项目,是一个多学科交叉联合攻关的系统工程。该工程是中华人民共和国“九五计划”中的一项国家重点科技攻关项目。该工程正式启动于1996年5月16日,2000年9月15日通过中华人民共和国验收。由于工程成果报告简本发表后,其结论和方法引起了中国内外学术界的较大质疑,最终的报告繁本未能获得通过。因此从这个角度上说,该工程是一项并未最终完成的项目。

目录 [隐藏]
1 工程介绍
1.1 背景
1.2 立项过程
1.3 工程目标
1.4 研究课题
1.5 研究方法
2 结论与意义
3 批评与质疑
3.1 关于周懿王元年天再旦的质疑
3.2 蒋祖棣对工程方法论的批评
4 参见
5 外部链接


[编辑] 工程介绍
[编辑] 背景
中华文明具有悠久的历史,然而真正有文献记载年代的“信史”却开始于西周共和元年(前841年,见于《史记·十二诸侯年表》),此前的历史年代都是模糊不清的。司马迁在《史记》里说过,他看过有关黄帝以来的许多文献,虽然其中也有年代记载,但这些年代比较模糊且又不一致,所以他便弃而不用,在《史记·三代世表》中仅记录了夏商周各王的世系而无具体在位年代。因此共和元年以前的中国历史一直没有一个公认的年表。

第一个对共和元年以前中国历史的年代学作系统研究工作的学者是西汉晚期的刘歆。刘歆的推算和研究结果体现在他撰写的《世经》中,《世经》的主要内容后被收录于《汉书·律历志》。从刘歆以后一直到清代中叶,又有许多学者对共和元年以前中国历史的年代进行了推算和研究。这些工作都有一定的局限性,因为他们推算所用的文献基本上不超过司马迁所见到的文献,所以很难有所突破。晚清以后情况有些变化,学者开始根据青铜器的铭文作年代学研究,这就扩大了资料的来源。1899年甲骨文的发现又为年代学研究提供了新的材料来源。进入20世纪后,中国考古学的发展又为研究夏商周年代学积累了大量的材料。

[编辑] 立项过程
1995年秋,国家科委(今科技部)主任宋健邀请在北京的部分学者召开了一个座谈会,会上宋健提出并与大家讨论建立夏商周断代工程这一设想。

1995年底国务院召开会议,成立了夏商周断代工程的领导小组,领导小组由国家科委、自然科学基金会、科学院、社科院、国家教委(今教育部)、国家文物局、中国科协共七个单位的领导组成,会议聘请了历史学家李学勤、碳-14专家仇士华、考古学家李伯谦、天文学家席泽宗作为工程的首席科学家。

1996年春,夏商周断代工程组织了一个由不同学科的21位专家形成的专家组,并拟定了夏商周断代工程可行性论证报告。可行性论证报告在1996年5月得到了通过。

1996年5月16日国务院召开了会议正式宣布夏商周断代工程开始启动。这一科研项目,涉及历史学、考古学、天文学、科技测年等学科,共分9个课题,44个专题,直接参与的专家学者达200人。

[编辑] 工程目标
西周共和元年(公元前841年)以前各王,提出比较准确的年代。
商代后期武丁以下各王,提出比较准确的年代。
商代前期,提出比较详细的年代框架。
夏代,提出基本的年代框架。
[编辑] 研究课题
有关夏商周年代、天象、都城文献的整理及可信性研究;
夏商周天文年代学综合性问题研究;
夏代年代学研究;
商代前期年代学研究;
商代后期年代学研究;
武王伐纣年代的研究;
西周列王的年代学研究;
碳14测年技术的改进与研究;
夏商周年代研究的综合与总结。
[编辑] 研究方法
夏商周断代工程对传世的古代文献和出土的甲骨文、金文等材料进行了搜集、整理、鉴定和研究;对其中有关的天文现象和历法记录通过现代天文学给予计算从而推定其年代;同时对有典型意义的考古遗址和墓葬材料进行了整理和分期研究,并进行了必要的发掘,获取样品后进行碳-14测年。

[编辑] 结论与意义
2000年11月9日夏商周断代工程正式公布了《夏商周年表》。《夏商周年表》定夏朝约开始于前2070年,夏商分界大约在公元前1600年,盘庚迁都约在公元前1300年,商周分界(武王伐纣之年)定为前1046年。依据武王伐纣之年和懿王的元年的确立,建立了商王武丁以来的年表和西周诸王年表。

如果该工程顺利的话,那么将有可能为研究中国古代文明的起源和发展给出了一个时间上的标尺,但目前看来,由于该工程的最终繁本报告迟迟未能通过,这个意义能否达到存在较大疑点。

[编辑] 批评与质疑
此条目的中立性有争议。内容、语调可能带有明显的个人观点或地方色彩。(2007年8月6日)
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自从夏商周断代工程正式公布《夏商周断代工程一九九六—二OOO年阶段成果报告(简本)》和《夏商周年表》以后,其中结论已被不少主流的词典和教材采用,开始产生影响。

从夏商周断代工程正式公布《夏商周年表》以后,来自中国国内和国际的批评出现增多。某些国外人士认为夏商周断代工程有“政治背景”,是中国政府在搞民族主义,有一些学者还对该工程的“学术道德”产生怀疑。在2000~2003年进行了三次辩论。斯坦福大学退休教授倪德卫在《纽约时报》上撰文,便断言“国际学术界将把工程报告撕成碎片”。但亦有人认为所谓的“国际学术界”一贯漠视中国本土研究成果,对中国历史没有发言权。

中国政府并没有对这些问题进行封锁,网络上随处可以见到关于此问题的介绍与讨论,中国政府也为此展开大规模论争,提出支持自己观点的各种理据,支持工程学者深入研究。有些国外学者不承认中国政府的努力,认为只要是中国政府支持的此类研究一定就有政治目的。有人就说,这些学者连最近发表的文字都说不清楚,他怎么可能对三代的年代行判别。而大陆不同意工程报告的学者也被这些国外学者加上“正义凛然”的标签,说成是“无力对抗政府”。

工程的成果是否失败现在仍然有争议。工程中有些成果也被国际学术界认可,例如张培瑜的研究,但工程内部却是存在争论。断代工程的学术问题可以简单地概括如下:

(1) 由于碳-14测定程序的使用不当和结果互相冲突,夏-商和商-周考古界面不清。
(2) 用于推理武王克商年的国语天象记录的真实性受到广泛质疑。
(3) 报告简本显示工程选择性地采用国语天象记录的一部分而不是全部作为推算依据,显然不忠实于原始数据。
(4) 作为历谱支撑点的懿王元年天再旦的记录被推算为899 BC,这一结果与后来天文学家公布的结果有冲突。此外,该结果是韩国学者方善柱发表于多年前,报告简本引用其结论但没有引用其文献,被国外学者批评为有违学术道德。
(5) 报告简本显示若干关键性的铜器铭文中的干支记录被肆意改动以便合历,使西周年谱缺乏可信度。
(6) 西周历法和月相术语的复杂性没有充分得到考虑和解决,使得铜器铭文中的日期记录推算缺乏充分的依据。
[编辑] 关于周懿王元年天再旦的质疑
在“东亚历史”[1]期刊(East Asian History)上,Douglas J. Keenan发表文章质疑周懿王元年天再旦是西元前899年[2]。文章中对于工程研究方法中的错误提出了具体质疑。文中提到:

……一些最近的研究计划,包括被中国国务院接受的研究计划(指夏商周断代工程),依据的是一个在西元前一千纪早期的“天再旦”的记载。这些研究把这个奇特的记载解读成日出时的日偏食。这种解读看似合理(黎明要开始之际,天色因为日食而暗下来,然后再日出),但却是不确定的。日出时把太阳表面遮住的部份大到可让天色大幅变暗的日食是很少的。在西元前899年4月21日的确是有一次日出时日食,而这些研究计划把这个日食对应到该奇特的记载(指周懿王元年天再旦)。 计算显示,西元前899年的那次日食把主观亮度(人类观察者所感受到的亮度)减低的程度小于25%。为了证明这样的亮度减少可以给观察者有“确定的天再旦”的感觉,一些研究者对观察了1997年日出时日偏食的观察者进行了调查。然而,所有的观察者所在的位置要不就是位于亮度减低不到10%的地方(这些地方的观察者没有“天再旦”的感觉),要不就是位于亮度减低超过80%的地方(这些地方有(指天再旦的感觉))。从这些数据,研究者作出结论,“主观亮度减少超过10%会造成“确定的天再旦”的感觉”。这个结论根本毫无根据。实际上,飘过的云常常可以造成主观亮度减少25%……

另外,该文也质疑了对于该次日食的计算的正确性。

另外,有人依据《日食路线图》作了调查,发现前899年4月21日早晨的日食,日食带西端在山东省,陕西省根本无法看到天再旦的。而在前871年10月6日早晨,在郑地可看到天再旦的天文景像。

[编辑] 蒋祖棣对工程方法论的批评
2003年4月12日,在芝加哥就断代工程进行了一次学术会议,斯坦福大学宗教文化中心的兼职研究员蒋祖棣向会议提交了一篇题为《西周年代研究之疑问——对夏商周断代工程方法论的批评》的文章,讨论“工程”对“武王克商”年代的研究。蒋祖棣注意到“工程”使用的是OxCal系列样品程序,他介绍说,OxCal程序系列样品计算法,只有68.2%的置信度,“工程”以这样低的置信度作为衡量西周具体王年的标尺很不科学。

[编辑] 参见
^ [1]
^ [2]
夏商周年表
[编辑] 外部链接
夏商周断代工程的主要成就
《夏商周年表》廓清千古之谜
《皇极经世》与《夏商周年表》(详细年表)
夏商周断代工程的主要成就 李学勤在中国国家图书馆的讲座
夏商周年表
夏商周年代学的考古学基础 李伯谦
“夏商周断代工程”争议难平 陈宁
Astro-Histriographic Chronologies of Early China Are Unfounded by Douglas J. Keenan
取自“http://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-cn/%E ... 3%E5%B7%A5%E7%A8%8B

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http://blog.51xuewen.com/zyjblog/article_15370.htm

宇宙中天体分布的层次结构和漩涡运动

在我的博文“评宇宙学原理的引进(1)----(4)”中我已提到1917年爱因斯坦开始试图根据广义相对论方程推导出整个宇宙的模型时,爱因斯坦对宇宙的层次结构和星系的旋转运动是一无所知。实际上在广阔的宇宙中天体分布有明显的层次结构和旋涡结构。引进所谓宇宙学原理没有任何物理和观测基础!纯粹是为了简化问题,以便数学上容易描述和求解。大爆炸宇宙学就是从这样没有任何物理和观测基础上的所谓均匀各向同性的宇宙学模型的动力学方程推导出来!
现在我们来具体看一下宇宙中天体分布的层次结构和旋涡运动。离我们最近的天体—月球是绕地球转动。地球-月球系统和其它行星-卫星系统又是绕太阳转动(这些在1917年爱因斯坦开始试图根据广义相对论方程推导出整个宇宙的模型时已经知道)。而太阳系和银河系中众多恒星系统则是绕银河系中心转动。这个宇宙层次中的天体的层次分布结构和旋涡运动当时天文学家并不知道。现在天文学家已经有比较精确的认识和描述。太阳系距银河系中心约三万光年,绕银河系中心的运动速度约为250 km/s。运转一周要两亿年之久。银河系中其它恒星也像太阳一样绕银河系中心运转。这就是说银河系也有自转。银河系除了自转之外,作为一个整体还朝着麒麟座方向以214 km/s的速度运动。更大层次的结构和旋涡运动目前天文学家的认识和描述还不是很精确。大概的情况是:我们所在的银河系和相邻的大约超过50个星系组成本星系团(因为成员星系数目较少,有时也被称为本星系群)。本星系团和相邻的其它星系团组成本超星系团。银河系在本超星系团的边缘附近,距离边缘二三百万光年。本超星系团的所有成员星系都在围绕着本超星系团中心作公转运动,银河系的公转周期大约是1000亿年。
下面是互联网上可以查到的一些层次结构示意图。

根据现在天文学家对太阳系认识和描述给出的太阳系示意图:


此主题相关图片如下:


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 楼主| 发表于 2011-2-18 12:53:32 | 只看该作者
应当说明,行星的大小和它们与太阳的距离在图中不是按比例给出的。
银河系结构示意图:



此主题相关图片如下:






图的上半部是银河系的正面图。也就是从银河系旋转轴的方向看银河系。图的下半部是银河系的侧面图。是从和银河系旋转轴以及太阳与银河系中心连线垂直的方向看银河系。
更大尺度层次的宇宙结构目前天文学家的认识和描述还不是很精确,因此现在还无法给出更大尺度层次的宇宙结构示意图。
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-2-18 12:54:03 | 只看该作者
约书亚缺少一天(外文资料,谷歌翻译)

http://www.progressivetheology.org/principles/Missing-Day.html

Urban Legend: Joshua's Missing Day Found!
The Legend and a Rebuttal
An Overview of the Urban Legend
NASA scientists have discovered a "missing day" in the history of the cosmos, thus proving the veracity of the account in Joshua 10 of the sun standing still! So those who circulate the claim cited below would have their correspondents believe. This urban legend has been circulating for over thirty years by word of mouth, in print, and now in e-mail chain letters. The intent of the legend is to demonstrate the absolute, literal truth of the biblical account in both Joshua 10:12-13 and 2 Kings 20:9-11 by means of a purported investigation by NASA scientists. The legend is presented first (including a concluding note urging recipients of the chain e-letter to forward it to their friends), followed by a rebuttal.


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The Urban Legend
NASA APPEARS TO PROVE GOD'S WORD
For all you scientists out there and for all of you who have a hard time convincing many of these individuals regarding the truth of the Bible ... here's something that apparently gives evidence of God's awesome creation and demonstrates that He is still in control.

Mr Harold Hill, President of the Curtis Engine Company in Baltimore, Maryland, and a consultant in the space program, relates the following development. I think one of the most amazing things that God has for us today happened recently to our astronauts and space scientists at Green Belt, Maryland.

They were checking the position of the sun, moon, and planets out in space, where they would be 100 years and 1000 years from now. We have to know this information, so we won't send a satellite up and have it bump into something later on during its orbits, since they're impacted by these astronomical issues. We have to lay out the orbits in terms of the life of the satellite, and where the planets will be, so the whole thing will not bog down.

They ran the computer measurements back and forth over the centuries and it came to a halt. The computer stopped and put up a red signal, which meant that there was something wrong either with the information fed into it or with the results as compared to the standards. They called in the service department to check it out and they said, "What's wrong?"

Well, they found there is a day missing in space over the measurements in elapsed time. They scratched their heads and figuratively tore their hair out. They searched and searched for a solution. But after many days there was no answer to be found.

THE SUN STANDS STILL
Finally, a Christian man on the team said, "You know, one time I was in Sunday School and they talked about the sun standing still." While the others didn't believe him, they didn't have an answer either, so they said, "Show us."

He got a Bible and went back to the book of Joshua, where they found a pretty ridiculous statement for anyone with "common sense." There they found the Lord saying to Joshua, "Fear them not, I have delivered them into thy hand; there shall not a man of them stand before thee." Joshua was concerned because he was surrounded by the enemy and if darkness fell they would overpower them. So Joshua asked the Lord to make the sun stand still!

That's right--"The sun stood still and the moon stayed, and hasted not to go down about a whole day!" The astronauts and scientists said, "There is the missing day!"

They checked the computers going back into the time this text was written and found it was close, but not close enough. The elapsed time that was missing back in Joshua's day was 23 hours and 20 minutes--not a whole day. They read the Bible and there it was "about (approximately) a day."

These little words in the Bible are important, but they were still in trouble because if you cannot account for 40 minutes, you'll still be in trouble 1,000 years from now. The 40 minutes had to be found, because it can be multiplied many times over in orbits.

As the Christian employee thought about it once again, he remembered somewhere in the Bible where it said the sun went backwards. The scientists told him he was out of his mind, but again they decided to check out the book and there they read these words in 2 Kings.

King Hezekiah, on his deathbed, was visited by the prophet Isaiah who told him that he was not going to die. Hezekiah asked for a sign as proof. Isaiah said, "Do you want the sun to go ahead 10 degrees?" Hezekiah said, "It is nothing for the sun to go ahead 10 degrees, but let the shadow return backward 10 degrees." Isaiah spoke to the Lord and the Lord brought the shadow ten degrees backward!

Well, ten degrees is exactly 40 minutes! Twenty-three hours and 20 minutes in Joshua, plus 40 minutes in Second Kings make the missing day in the universe!

Isn't it amazing? God and His Word is Truth! References: Joshua 10:8 and 12-13; and 2 Kings 20:9-11. Forward this to as many people who would think this is equally as cool.


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Rebuttal
First, Harold Hill was indeed a real person and the president of Curtis Engine & Equipment, Inc., in Baltimore, MD. He died in 1986, and he did tell the story that's related in the urban legend. Although he claimed to be a consultant for NASA, in actuality all he did was contract to operate and maintain some diesel engines (his company's business). That hardly qualifies him as a consultant, especially since the implication of his story is that he was consulting on matters related to computer calculations of the telemetry of the sun, moon, and planets. The story of the "Missing Day" is one of several "Urban Legends" tracked by the Web site "Ship of Fools." It appears exactly as it's given above on their site, followed by a brief rebuttal ( http://www.ship-of-fools.com/Myths/05Myth.html), which claims that the NASA Public Affairs Office has issued a denial that NASA ever uncovered a missing day.

Second, the Web site of Curtis Engine & Equipment, Inc., contains the following statement: "Curtis Engine & Equipment, Inc. does not substantiate or continue Harold's personal research. Unfortunately, we have no information concerning the "Missing Day" nor do we have any connections at NASA who would be able to corroborate Harold's claims" ( http://www.curtisengine.com/harold_hill.html).

Regarding the specific claims made in the story, based on my background as a former science teacher, my study of and work with computers and computer programs for more than 25 years, my continuing interest and reading on various scientific subjects, and my seminary training, I have the following comments.

1. Claim: NASA ran a computer program to check the future position of the sun, moon, and planets over hundreds and thousands of years so that satellites wouldn't crash into them.

Fact: No satellite lasts hundreds, much less thousands of years, so there would be no reason to run the program more than 100 years into the future for any satellite, because it wouldn't last that long, especially satellites built in the sixties, when Harold Hill first began telling his story.

Fact: Minor errors in calculations can be accounted for by computers, but chaos theory tells us that complex calculations extrapolated over long periods of time are increasingly and exponentially inaccurate. It's the same reason that the weather can only be predicted a few days in advance with any accuracy, even with today's supercomputers. Calculating the positions of the sun, moon, and planets accurately to within a 24-hour window over 3500 years ago (the traditional date of Joshua) is extremely unlikely. In addition to slight errors in calculation that could accumulate over time, unknown events (e.g., a comet or asteroid crashing into a planet or passing close enough to affect a planet's orbit) could also throw present estimates off by a significant margin.

Fact: NASA would have no reason to run the program backwards to check for problems with satellites (unless they were planning on time travel!). They certainly could have run the program in reverse, assuming it was written to allow backwards extrapolation, but if they did, it wouldn't have had anything to do with calculations relevant to satellites.

2. Claim: While the program was running backwards, calculating the positions of the luminaries in past time, the computer program stopped, indicating an error either in the input data or in the output "as compared to the standards."

Fact: What standards? If the scientists had had standards telling them where the sun, moon, and planets were at points in time past, they wouldn't have needed the program to calculate their positions!

Fact: If the whole universe except for life on earth stopped for a day, then started again, there would be absolutely no way to tell. Backwards extrapolations would assume continuous motion according to the laws of physics, and since there are no "standards" to compare them with (see above), the computer would sail right along without a problem. I have a historical analogy for this. If today is October 24, 2003, what was the date exactly 300 years ago, assuming that years have 365 days, except for leap years, with 366? October 24, 1703, right? Wrong! The date was October 13, 1703. That's because Britain and America, along with other countries, changed from the Julian calendar to the Gregorian calendar in 1752, losing 11 days (the change had to do with problems with calculating leap years). The point is that, unless you knew about the historical change from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar (an existing "standard"!), you'd have no way of knowing that any days were "missing." God could have stopped the whole universe, or parts of it, a million times between the beginning of time and the time of Galileo (who invented the telescope, allowing accurate measurements and the calculation of "standards"), and we'd have no way of knowing.

3. Claim: The elapsed time that was missing in Joshua's day was 23 hours and 20 minutes (see Josh 10:12-13).

Fact: There is no way to get from "about a whole day" in Hebrew to 23 hours and 20 minutes. "About a whole day" could mean about 24 hours or about 12 hours, give or take a couple of hours.

Fact: There is no reason for assuming from a scientific standpoint that 23 hours and 20 minutes were missing. Remember, there are no "standards" to compare the supposed computer extrapolations to.

4. Claim: In Hezekiah's day, God made the shadow of the sun go backwards 10 degrees, or forty minutes (see 2 Kgs 20:9-11).

Fact: Reversing the earth 10 degrees on its axis will result in a day that is 40 minutes longer than normal (10 degrees * 1 day/360 degrees * 24 hours/day * 60 minutes/hour = 40 minutes). The problem is, the Hebrew text says nothing about 10 degrees. The word which the KJV renders "degrees" actually means "steps," probably steps used as a sundial in the present case. In the first place, a sundial wouldn't be divided into steps small enough to measure four-minute periods. Sundials aren't accurate at that small an interval, since the position of the sun in the sky moves slightly day to day according to the time of year (variations in the azimuth). Sundials wouldn't be subdivided into units as small as 1/15 of an hour (4 minutes), the units required for 10 steps to equal 40 minutes. Finally, it is important to note that the misinterpretation "10 degrees" is simply a misunderstanding of the KJV. The KJV translators weren't using the term "degree" in its mathematical sense of "1/360th of a circle" but rather in its more general sense of "an interval." So the KJV translators were right, but Hill misunderstood what they meant when he concocted his story.

Fact: Like the "missing" 23 hours and 20 minutes, the "missing" 40 minutes cannot be proven to be missing, because there are no "standards" with which to compare the computer extrapolations.

5. Claim: Adding the missing 23 hours 20 minutes of Joshua to the missing 40 minutes of 2 Kings yields 24 hours, or exactly one day.

Fact: Since Hill is claiming that these measurements are exact, then they should add up to exactly one day. However, a day is not exactly 24 hours long. The "mean (average) solar day" is indeed 24 hours 00 minutes 00 seconds, but that's just an average. The vast majority of days are longer or shorter, by as much as fifteen minutes, depending on the position of the earth in its elliptical orbit around the sun. The length of a sidereal day (one complete rotation on the earth's axis) is constant (aside from gradual slowing over millions of years), but it is only 23 hours, 56 minutes, and 4 seconds.

Concluding Remarks
I find such attempts to prove the Bible true amusing, perplexing, and aggravating. They're amusing because of the lengths these people will go to bend the normal meaning of words, invent "facts," and ignore science. These were the same sorts of arguments people made to Galileo when he tried to tell them that the earth wasn't the center of the universe. They're perplexing because I don't understand why some people seem to be so desperate to prove their faith that they'll resort to almost anything not to have to change their views about the Bible. A faith that's based on distortion, misunderstanding, and deceit isn't very well founded. They're aggravating because non-Christians can use urban legends such as this to "prove" how silly Christians are, or how silly Christianity is. Of course, the fact that some Christians do innocently buy into such myths doesn't prove anything about either their intelligence or the validity of their religion. However, it certainly doesn't make Christians look like brain surgeons!

Intelligent Christians need to take a stand against urban legends such as this and against all other attempts to prove the validity of the Bible by means of twisted logic, misrepresentations of science, and fabrications. Faith is one thing; gullibility is another. When Jesus was asked what was the greatest commandment, he answered, in part, "You shall love the Lord your God with all ... your mind." Forms of Christianity that require people to set aside their mental faculties are an affront to God and an indirect assault on Christianity, and progressive Christians need to take a firm stand against such nonsense.


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 楼主| 发表于 2011-2-18 12:54:18 | 只看该作者
(接上文)


深度证明是真正的圣经: 约书亚缺少一天

你的科学家外面,所有学生都人有了很难令人信服的圣经-这里的真理就这些人的东西,演示了上帝的令人敬畏的创建,并显示他仍然处于控件。
你知道计划忙证明是被称为神话' 圣经里的 NASA 的空间是真的吗? 希尔哈罗德先生的主席
寇蒂斯发动机公司的巴尔的摩和这空间课程顾问与以下事件: 「 一人最令人惊异的东西,上帝,我们今天发生了最近对我们的航天员及绿化地带,马里兰州的空间科学家。 他们被签出该的太阳的位置月亮和行星出的空间,他们会 100 和 1000 年。 我们要知道这一点,我们不希望,与任何这些在其轨道卫星。 我们要的卫星和行星在香港,将会使整个项目不会生活的轨道的布局
停。 计算机测量和数据,运行来回百年时,突然停下来显示一个红色的信号
这意味着也有出与输入的信息或标准,比较结果。 问错的技术人员和他们调用签出,它的服务部门。 科学家们曾发现在什么地方的空间已用时间的一天是缺少。 没有人看上去能够问题提出的解决方案。 最后的团队个的基督徒之一说: 「 你知道,当我还是
星期日院校他们谈到太阳站 still…" 尽管他的同事们不相信他,并没有一个答案
也因此他们说:"显示我们" 他一圣经,他们发现其中约书亚书在打开了一个
相当可笑的语句的任何一个常识。 那里他们阅读有关主,约书亚说:"不要害怕它们,我已发表
他们在你手中 ; 不有一名男子,他们在你面前的立场" (约书亚 10: 8)。
约书亚关注,因为敌人了包围他,并且如果黑暗了,他们会压制他。 因此,约书亚要求主
让阳光停滞不前 ! 对-"和太阳站在还与月亮住,直到该人曾报复自己对自己
敌人。 这不写在的子的谢尔吗? 太阳光仍处于的天堂,加速不去整个
日 」。 (约书亚 10: 13) 时
航天员及科学家说: 「 是缺少的日子 ! 」 这些签回走进了编写代码的计算机和
找到它,但它不是不够紧密。 缺少在约书亚的一天的时间是 23 小时 20 分钟的不是一整天。 他们
再读圣经和它的有:"有关 (大约) 一天" 圣经中的这些小的的话重要,但它们仍然在
故障原因仍不明的另一台 40 分钟,这可能意味着故障 1000 年。 要找的四十分钟
因为它可以增加多次上的轨道。 基督教员工认为这件事,因为他记得在什么地方圣经里的
说了向后的阳光。 科学家们对他说他是他的脑海的但再一次打开簿和读这些 2 中的单词
王。 希西,临终,被访问者告诉他他不会死去的以赛亚的先知。 一些符号作为希西要求
证据。 以赛亚说: 「 应太阳去转发十度,或返回十度? 」
希西回答:"这是光的事情的影子走十度 ; 奈,但让影向后返回十度"。
与以赛亚先知哭了对该的主,他带阴影十程度后,它已经向下在亚哈斯的拨号" (2
王 20: 9 下跌百分之十一)。 十度是完全 40 分钟 ! 约书亚,在二十三个小时和二十分钟加 2 中的 40 分钟王占失踪日宇宙中 !


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