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咱来看看美国人咋看大选的。 这是我下载的美网友对于大选是否作弊的评价，太多条了，不一一翻译。
他们中有挺川的，有反川的，有赞同司法调查的，也有认为舞弊说毫无根据的。但是，这么多条没有骂人的，没有互怼的，更没有歇斯底里发泄情绪的。
为什么？
VickiJax 6h ago I don't care if it affected the outcome of the election, or not. If there was voter fraud, law abiding American voters have the right to know about, and those responsible need to be prosecuted.
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cyberpunk2077 VickiJax 53m ago Oh Trump is going to jail for bribery
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Mark_in_LV VickiJax 55m ago Of course. But these lawsuits are not even trying to prosecute anybody. They're just trying to reverse an election result.
Reply pfisher500 6h ago It seems they are telling the team that they don't have standing BEFORE they even look at the evidence, how could you possibly establish whether there is standing or not without looking at some of the evidence?
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Mark_in_LV pfisher500 56m ago You clearly have no idea what "standing" means in a courtroom.
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Tortuga6 pfisher500 1h ago “However, the so-called proof has not been presented during numerous court hearings, with judges repeatedly ruling against the Trump campaign in most of those states.”
So, Trump’s hand-picked Attorney General rejects allegations of fraud.
Trump’s Director of the DHS Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency rejects allegations of fraud.
Republican Governors in Ohio, Georgia, Arizona, and other states all reject allegations of fraud. ...See more
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5headedmonster pfisher500 2m ago Haha "Team". Its just Rudy rummaging around in his trunk and asking himself, can I make this blow up doll learn to talk?
Reply danielmaclean467 6h ago Regardless of what happens, half of the nation no longer believes we have a free and fair election.
That's a serious problem that isn't going to go away.
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cyberpunk2077 danielmaclean467 53m ago You’re not free because you’ve been convicted of a felony to defraud
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JSchutt danielmaclean467 1h ago There is no proof of voter Fraud anywhere. Trumps lawsuits have been lost. The Recounts of paper ballots have all come out accurately. Two Republican Senate committees appointed by Trump have found no fraud. Trumps DOJ Barr has found no fraud. Trumps Homeland security department found no fraud.
Maybe it is time that we see that the Fraud is Trump. And not our 240 year tradition of holding elections
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DigitalAddict danielmaclean467 51m ago Half the nation lacks the critical thinking to tell fact from fiction. They believe whatever their favorite news site, Facebook feed, and megalomaniac leader tells them. There is a reason spam email still works and looks like all the ads you see on Fox News.
Reply davep375 5h ago These allegations are possibly true but Trump has to prove it. Also, the evidence has to be substantial enough that it would affect the outcome of the election. That is an incredibly difficult hurdle to climb over. Trump has yet to provide hard physical evidence and judges don't want to hear about fraud. They want to see it.
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HandyDandy davep375 1h ago The States run by criminal Democrats have the ballots in their possession. Explain how Biden is losing big time, and comes back in 5 States with the same ratio of votes? How does he get hundreds of thousands of votes in the middle of the night AFTER they stopped the count?
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RetiredLT♂️ davep375 1h ago I don't care if it affected the outcome of the election, or not. If there was voter fraud, law abiding American voters have the right to know about, and those responsible need to be prosecuted.
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deep44 5h ago the issue those in Washington know full well if they investigate and find fraud which they will, their livelihoods will be taken away including all the ancillary businesses built around the political system.
Reply 288 45 1h ago There is no proof of voter Fraud anywhere. Trumps lawsuits have been lost. The Recounts of paper ballots have all come out accurately. Two Republican Senate committees appointed by Trump have found no fraud. Trumps DOJ Barr has found no fraud. Trumps Homeland security department found no fraud.
Maybe it is time that we see that the Fraud is Trump. And not our 240 year tradition of holding elections
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Itsabigworld deep44 2h ago Ugh, you claim they will find fraud and they don’t. Trump claims there is fraud and cannot prove it. You see the lack of evidence, you see the court rulings, you hear the FBI and DoJ say there is no fraud, you hear judges and election officials including many republicans say there isno fraud, and you say.... there is evidence and they will find it. When are you going to make a reasoned assessment of what you see? Why do you continue to believe these lies in the face of all available evidence? When will you ever think “wait a minute, they’ve been lying to me”?
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Foxtv2260 6h ago Perfect. These lawyers and their witnesses should appear in court and make their assertions of malfeasance to a judge. Should be very interesting.
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inscienceitrust Foxtv2260 3h ago “to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.”- Barr
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Dennygirl Foxtv2260 3h ago No, the people they accuse should have to show they didn’t commit election fraud.
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cyberpunk2077 Foxtv2260 51m ago That’s not going to happen because then the whistleblower would be testifying under oath and we all know they were paid
Reply Debfortrump 5h ago the fact that every day people have signed affidavits related to witnessing the mishandling of different aspects of the election tells me there is a real problem. I heard alot of their statements and am appauled by what they witnessed. I admire each one coming forward knowing full well that their lives will be disrupted for a period of time. these every day folks want "every" American to know that there was some irregularities and that they should raise flags for this election cycle. Americans do not want sloppy, illegal, dishonest elections. every whistleblowers' statement should, without pause, be explored.
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JSchutt Debfortrump 1h ago There is no proof of voter Fraud anywhere. Trumps lawsuits have been lost. The Recounts of paper ballots have all come out accurately. Two Republican Senate committees appointed by Trump have found no fraud. Trumps DOJ Barr has found no fraud. Trumps Homeland security department found no fraud. Maybe it is time that we see that the Fraud is Trump. And not our 240 year tradition of holding elections
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wot? Debfortrump 5h ago Fake News, and since you aren't a United States citizen, why don't you butt out of our elections.
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cyberpunk2077 Debfortrump 51m ago I don’t see republicans complaining about fraud in 2016 when Trump won ... right
Reply kina 6h ago I am deeply troubled by the phrase "not enough evidence" or the evidence is "not at the scale" to flip the results. A wrong act, a criminal act is enough to warrant an investigation. It's about the integrity of the election. Whether the fraud is big enough to change the election outcome is a different matter. And these people call themselves lawyers?
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dwhatt kina 1h ago So true
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Vantastic863 kina 3h ago Yeah, it's kinda like saying, "He didn't aim well enough to hit anybody so there's no reason for the attempted murder charge."
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5headedmonster kina 8m ago I'm sure your Trump University law degree has made you an authority. Get on the case Harvey Birdman
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victoryhawk 5h ago The only winner in the mail-in-ballot method of voting is the Postal service, much needed revenue. However the more I see and read about the system ( I was never a big fan ) I see too many problems with the mail-in-voting system. Absentee ballots sure, we need these but a system that some want to make a preferred method of voting , by mail is not the answer. Reply 36 7
scubasteve191 5h ago We received two mail in ballots for the previous homeowners, mother in law received a mail in ballot after moving to a different state after she already voted, and my spouse was told someone requested a mail in ballot on her behalf, without her knowledge, when she tried to vote at the polls. This is such a small sample of what could have happened to many others. Fraud or no fraud, there were flaws in the voting process this year that could have attributed to a candidate elected to an office position that didn’t receive legal votes. There were too many inconsistencies this year not to question a fair election.
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LibrariesAreCool scubasteve191 3h ago Riiiight. No complaints in 2016 however.
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reconciled scubasteve191 3h ago First it's "there's no evidence whatsoever of any voter fraud" Then "Well, there's no evidence of any significant voter fraud" Then "Well, there's no evidence of widespread significant voter fraud" Now it's "Well, there's no evidence of widespread significant voter fraud that could have changed 2020 election" So we exposed their lie of "no evidence of any voter fraud" exposed their lie of "no significant voter fraud", exposed their lie of "no widespread significant voter fraud" and now we have to expose theiir final lie of "well .. not enough widespread significant voter fraud that could change the 2020 election" Not to mention he ignores the fact that the exposed massive widespread fraud puts all other house/Senate elections in jeopardy and Barr doesn't care and doesn't look into ANY of it, which exposes his criiminal attempt to cover it up, proving he's complicit in this massive fraud and must also be held accountable. They must have threatened Barr's life to get him to make such a blatant lie, either that or bought him off. Unfortunately for them, God is the one that ordains all leaders, and seems to me likely God is not ordaining Biden/democrats via all this treason to take over America, but instead showing America how easily our country can be taken down from within if we do not get back to Him.
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